Posts by Thirteenth tribe

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Music Video: Would Jesus Wear a Rolex on JW Broadcasting? - PARODY

by cappytan in

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this took quite a while this evening.

so worth it though.

hope you enjoy!

Thirteenth tribe

Wow how many times was Stephen Let dropped on his head as a baby ? Good grief he must have been swigging more than cool aid he makes ozzy Osborne look capable of running for parliament ! 🤕

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Leaked Elder's Video: How to deal with a suicidal sister

by cappytan in

this video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.

however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.

feel free to claim credit here.

They wouldn't want to promote professional help on any level it would help sober the person up , instead they tell you how you should feel, what's acceptable to feel. Most of these elders need flippin support workers/careers they can't even string a sentence together, in fact they probably mime the words to these ridiculous videos that are playing in the room whilst counselling a 'depressed one' 💩

"Stick to the script ! duhhh I don't know any new words, we didn't learn anymore videos for this one yet"! 😩

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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !

by Thirteenth tribe in

over the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.

but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.

one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!

Thirteenth tribe

Thanks Finklestein, my husband has just read the entire thread and annoyed at some of the rubbish I've been listening to over the last few years! He feels you hit the nail on the head and I feel like I have closure on that comment now.

Talesin - in the last year an elders wife died from a brain tumour in my X congregation .. Every card and visitor came out with the same old rubbish (like a cd on play/repeat) - "at least you will see her soon in the new system, that might even happen before the funeral !"

I couldn't believe it, I wrote a card saying how sorry I was for all the pain they were going through as a family not "don't worry we will all be in paradise soon" it's just so damaging and completely invalidates someone's pain (it's also a pure insult to ones intelligence) just like the 'forgive if you want to be forgiven' rule.

He's actually stepped down from duties and declared boldly that the congregation have let him down... Best thing for him to do is leave with his 2 daughters.. so I wonder what will happen with him.

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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !

by Thirteenth tribe in

over the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.

but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.

one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!

Thirteenth tribe

Apologies on the previous rant on forgiveness .. I have waves of emotion and annoyance at being over influenced within my own head space! How long does it take to calm down after handing in your disassociation letter?

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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"

by Thirteenth tribe in

https://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.

try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .

Thirteenth tribe

I studied psychology and counselling and now want to go back to study Cognitive behavioural therapy. Great I will check out those articles 🤔

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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"

by Thirteenth tribe in

https://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.

try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .

Thirteenth tribe

Thanks Talesin, really appreciate your input. I'm actually talking to my husband about returning to university, I can't believe I allowed the organisation to discourage me from further study (apart from their shed load of endless propaganda study materials) I thankfully went to uni back in the day before I got back into the whole Borg stage of my life!

if you have the link for that article ? ☺️X

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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !

by Thirteenth tribe in

over the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.

but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.

one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!

Thirteenth tribe

I will never forget a debate I got into with a sister on forgiveness.. She stated how can you expect Jehovah to forgive your sins when you won't move past something that was done to you in your past and forgive that person ? I explained the very obvious difference and premise for my argument - I was sorry and remorseful for all my mistakes and actually seeked forgiveness. The person who wronged me is far from remorseful or sorry and is so arrogant they don't even know how to apologise... How can you be forgiven if you don't actually believe youve even been part of a hurtful action towards another human being? You need a transgressor, an acknowledgment of wrongdoing, a humble heart and then the other party can decide if they can or want to forgive!

The witnesses like to wave this magic generic 'rule of thumb' wand over every problem- when will they realise life is usually the grey area between black and white🤔FYI I was my own worst enemy the only person I hurt was myself ! 😕

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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"

by Thirteenth tribe in

https://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.

try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .

Thirteenth tribe

Yes good point, literally putting it out for there for debate -I have my reservations on her theories... To me it doesn't work but i find myself looking around for the 1st time in years at different points of view. Not to adopt new teachings just because 'I can ' now!

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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"

by Thirteenth tribe in

https://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.

try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .

Thirteenth tribe

Probably the love bombing on us ones who have suffered low self esteem or overwhelming feelings of unworthiness.. They play on Gods love for is like its a dam commodity.

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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !

by Thirteenth tribe in

over the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.

but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.

one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!

Thirteenth tribe

Over the last few years I have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from JW's .. I won't lie 2 sisters I knew to be different and quite genuine ... All be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though. But on the whole most brothers/sisters I've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect. One sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) I replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because I was in a cult!!), before I could expand on that she cut in with "don't worry it's only temporary at least you will get a new husband in the new system"

I could of punched her smug, arrogant, smiling/sneering face! I didn't reply, I absorbed the crap and tried to forgive as it is hammered into us to gloss over our brothers and sisters transgressions! Man, now they gloss over the "transgressions" of hurting children in the worst way possible... I would like to watch a vigilante mob extract justice on these morons and then we can gloss over it!

Anyway rant over, I actually came on to post this very well defined short vid by Berne brown (sociology /psychology schola)r on sympathy and empathy- how one approach is detrimental and the other genuine. This is because most of the Jws I've seen in action have got it so wrong with their self righteous glazed over nonsense and could learn a thing or two from watching this video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Evwgu369Jw

Peace out.